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Wednesday, September 30, 2009
Jewish racism: Not just for Zionists
(By Chris Moore, Judeofascism.com) -- Self-described "assimilationist Jew " Philip Weiss thinks I dislike Jews. In a front page post on anti-Zionist blog Mondoweiss titled ‘Anti-semites go away,’ he claims I “don’t have anything nice to say about [his] original community,” and says he doesn’t want me offering my opinion of Jews on his site, hence I have been banned from commenting on Mondoweiss.
Fair enough. It is his site and he can ban whomever he wants. But his blanket assessment that I dislike Jews, and his inference that the comment from the post that led to my banning was removed because it contained a general expression of dislike for Jews, are both false; and his insinuation that I am an anti-Semite who has deemed the Zionist problem to be “racial or irremediable” is a wrong-headed smear as well. All of which deserves a published rebuttal.
Further compounding Weiss’ off-base assessment of my comment was an Orwellian reinterpretation of the removed comment by regular hard-Left Mondoweiss commenter 'syvanen,' claiming “the blow up Friday began with Chris linking this universal Jewish character to Jewish Bolshevism and the neocons…”
This, too, is totally untrue. Although I’ve regularly noted the connection between Jewish neoconservatism and Jewish Bolshevism in terms of authoritarian outlook in comments on Mondoweiss in the past, the comment that was removed said nothing about Jewish Bolshevism and the neocons, and the closest it came to a universal characterization about Jews was the statement that “one characteristic that most people can agree on is that [Judaism] is comprised of a cohesive group of Jews.”
But the main point of my deleted comment was contained in its final sentence, and pertained to the signs prominently featured in the picture displayed by Weiss that accompanied the original post. In it, segregationist goons from the 50’s South were carrying a sign that read “Race Mixing is Communism.” My response was thus: “The racist absolutism depicted in the photo may be irrational, but the fear of Communism was not.”
Weiss, I suspect, disliked both my comment on Jewish cohesion, and my comment on anti-Communism, because the first paralleled the cohesion of whites in the segregationist-South to the cohesion of ethnocentric Jewry in general (Weiss only wants to connect segregationist goons with Zionists), and the second comment took a shot at his own left-wing politics.
However, my main goal with the remark was to dispel any impression that there is any equation between anti-Communism and racism, just as it is important not to equate anti-Zionism with racism. Racists may have attached themselves to both causes at times, but that doesn’t invalidate the causes themselves as a result.
My secondary aim was to demonstrate that even segregationist goons from the 50’s were human beings with rational human fears common to their time, and left-wingers and socialist dragging out old segregationist photos -- especially in the context of Obama’s socialist agenda and accusations by Jimmy Carter that opponents are racist -- is a dirty trick.
Unfortunately, that’s standard operating procedure for the Left: drag up instances of historical racism from European colonialism to the Holocaust to segregation, disingenuously connect them to conservatism, libertarianism, and populism, and then use them to tar opponents of socialism as bigots -- all in a ploy to demagogue white guilt, and pit the races against one another for purposes of left-wing political gain.
Since that’s the game they play, it’s only fair to draw the much more intellectually coherent and inherent connection between the Left and the hundred million murders perpetrated by Communism (millions of which were instigated and carried out in Soviet Russia against Christians, in part for their religious heritage, by racist Jewish Communists).
To my mind, this history makes the Left-coalition that is attempting to slowly re-implement a socialist form of neo-Communism the real insidious and racist threat. Actually, worse than racist. Since authoritarian Leftism targets people of all races for re-education or extermination not only for their religious heritage and political views, but for their thoughts as well, it makes them misanthropes.
Despite all the Mondoweiss contretemps, there was an instructive exchange after Weiss purported to justify why I’d been “zapped” that took place between regular commenters D., Syavanen, Tree, and Cliff:
Since the argument that authoritarian, institutional Jewish supremacism exists in Zionist Israel is irrefutable, the only question up for debate is whether it first showed its face in Russian Bolshevism under the guise of Communism, and whether it's showing its face again today in the Democratic Party, given the hugely disproportionate role being played in the upper echelons of the Democratic Party by left-leaning Jewish Zionists who, for example, comprise 20% of the Democrats in the U.S. Senate even though Jews are under 2% of all U.S. citizens.
This isn’t very “progressive” of the Left, given that there is only one African-American Democrat in the U.S. Senate (1%), even though blacks comprise 13% of the country, and a much higher percentage than that of the regular Democratic vote.
Some might even say it’s racist.
Weiss is no authoritarian Leftist, but how “assimilationist” is he, really, given that his adopted left-wing identity, as opposed to a rejected Zionist identity, means he simply favors one strain of Jewish-centered authoritarianism over another?
***Chris Moore is publisher of Judeofascism.com and LibertarianToday.com, a conservative-libertarian-populist blog
Fair enough. It is his site and he can ban whomever he wants. But his blanket assessment that I dislike Jews, and his inference that the comment from the post that led to my banning was removed because it contained a general expression of dislike for Jews, are both false; and his insinuation that I am an anti-Semite who has deemed the Zionist problem to be “racial or irremediable” is a wrong-headed smear as well. All of which deserves a published rebuttal.
Further compounding Weiss’ off-base assessment of my comment was an Orwellian reinterpretation of the removed comment by regular hard-Left Mondoweiss commenter 'syvanen,' claiming “the blow up Friday began with Chris linking this universal Jewish character to Jewish Bolshevism and the neocons…”
This, too, is totally untrue. Although I’ve regularly noted the connection between Jewish neoconservatism and Jewish Bolshevism in terms of authoritarian outlook in comments on Mondoweiss in the past, the comment that was removed said nothing about Jewish Bolshevism and the neocons, and the closest it came to a universal characterization about Jews was the statement that “one characteristic that most people can agree on is that [Judaism] is comprised of a cohesive group of Jews.”
But the main point of my deleted comment was contained in its final sentence, and pertained to the signs prominently featured in the picture displayed by Weiss that accompanied the original post. In it, segregationist goons from the 50’s South were carrying a sign that read “Race Mixing is Communism.” My response was thus: “The racist absolutism depicted in the photo may be irrational, but the fear of Communism was not.”
Weiss, I suspect, disliked both my comment on Jewish cohesion, and my comment on anti-Communism, because the first paralleled the cohesion of whites in the segregationist-South to the cohesion of ethnocentric Jewry in general (Weiss only wants to connect segregationist goons with Zionists), and the second comment took a shot at his own left-wing politics.
However, my main goal with the remark was to dispel any impression that there is any equation between anti-Communism and racism, just as it is important not to equate anti-Zionism with racism. Racists may have attached themselves to both causes at times, but that doesn’t invalidate the causes themselves as a result.
My secondary aim was to demonstrate that even segregationist goons from the 50’s were human beings with rational human fears common to their time, and left-wingers and socialist dragging out old segregationist photos -- especially in the context of Obama’s socialist agenda and accusations by Jimmy Carter that opponents are racist -- is a dirty trick.
Unfortunately, that’s standard operating procedure for the Left: drag up instances of historical racism from European colonialism to the Holocaust to segregation, disingenuously connect them to conservatism, libertarianism, and populism, and then use them to tar opponents of socialism as bigots -- all in a ploy to demagogue white guilt, and pit the races against one another for purposes of left-wing political gain.
Since that’s the game they play, it’s only fair to draw the much more intellectually coherent and inherent connection between the Left and the hundred million murders perpetrated by Communism (millions of which were instigated and carried out in Soviet Russia against Christians, in part for their religious heritage, by racist Jewish Communists).
To my mind, this history makes the Left-coalition that is attempting to slowly re-implement a socialist form of neo-Communism the real insidious and racist threat. Actually, worse than racist. Since authoritarian Leftism targets people of all races for re-education or extermination not only for their religious heritage and political views, but for their thoughts as well, it makes them misanthropes.
Despite all the Mondoweiss contretemps, there was an instructive exchange after Weiss purported to justify why I’d been “zapped” that took place between regular commenters D., Syavanen, Tree, and Cliff:
D.: “Most people here at this site are in solidarity in their opposition to Zionism. If the conversation stayed at this level, I don’t think there would be many of these flare-ups of so-called “antisemitism.” The problem seems to arise whenever someone, directly or implicitly, raises the question of the roots of Zionism — is it a hijacking of true Jewishness or the expression of supremacist ideas that were always there?…”
Syvanen: “The question of the roots of Zionism [are] quite legitimate. To suggest that it is an expression of Jewish supremacist ideas is not. This is stereotyping Jewish character in what we mean by antisemitism. The blow up Friday began with Chris linking this universal Jewish character to Jewish Bolshevism and the neocons…”
Tree: “But Zionism IS an expression of Jewish supremacist ideas. This does not mean that every Jew is a supremacist, or that the only threads of Judaism, or “Jewishness” more generally, are supremacist ones, or that Jews are the only people who have ideas that put more worth or value on their own affinity group than others. But the idea of Jewish supremacism exists, and it exists among a certain subset of Jews, just as white supremacism exists, and it exists among a certain subset of whites. And Christian supremacism exists among a certain subset of Christians. To deny that any of that exists is not a refutation of Chris but rather the polar companion to Chris’s statement that such Jewish supremacism is universal…”
Cliff: “I think syvanen is a racist against White people! ‘White’ supremacist?
This is ridiculous. And it shows how hijacked the Palestinian cause is. We are falling over ourselves talking about Jewish identity with such care as if we’re handling delicate china. OF COURSE Zionism is a construct of Jewish identity. To deny that is just a flat out whitewash…”
Since the argument that authoritarian, institutional Jewish supremacism exists in Zionist Israel is irrefutable, the only question up for debate is whether it first showed its face in Russian Bolshevism under the guise of Communism, and whether it's showing its face again today in the Democratic Party, given the hugely disproportionate role being played in the upper echelons of the Democratic Party by left-leaning Jewish Zionists who, for example, comprise 20% of the Democrats in the U.S. Senate even though Jews are under 2% of all U.S. citizens.
This isn’t very “progressive” of the Left, given that there is only one African-American Democrat in the U.S. Senate (1%), even though blacks comprise 13% of the country, and a much higher percentage than that of the regular Democratic vote.
Some might even say it’s racist.
Weiss is no authoritarian Leftist, but how “assimilationist” is he, really, given that his adopted left-wing identity, as opposed to a rejected Zionist identity, means he simply favors one strain of Jewish-centered authoritarianism over another?
***Chris Moore is publisher of Judeofascism.com and LibertarianToday.com, a conservative-libertarian-populist blog
Saturday, September 26, 2009
Banned from Mondoweiss: Creeping Left censorship?
For those who are interested, here is my (censored) comment from the Mondoweiss post that Philip Weiss professed to believe was anti-Semitic, and used as a pretext for my banning:
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My banning from Mondoweiss has nothing to do with anti-Semitism, and Weiss knows it. It has to do with the hard-Left Jewish diaspora political identity, which is just the flip side of the hard-Right Jewish Zionist identity. There is no moral distinction between the two whatsoever; in fact, the hard-Left is ultimately more destructive.
I harbor no animosity towards Weiss, who has mostly handled the Zionist issue honestly and deftly, but ultimately his left-wing politics prevent him from getting to any kind of truth or responsible outcome to the problem of the authoritarian impulse amongst large pluralities of politicized modern Jewry from the Levant to New York.
Apologists will say Jewry have plenty of good historical reasons to be fearful and hence disposed towards authoritarianism, but that can legitimately be said of nearly any nation. Nazi Germany had plenty of legitimate reasons to be fearful, but it’s no excuse for mass-murderous authoritarianism --which pluralities of Jewry were themselves guilty of instigating and implementing prior to the Holocaust in the early Soviet era, and on a larger scale.
Weiss want to point the finger at right-wing Zionism, but refuses to consider it’s left-wing equivalent in the diaspora, and as far as I know has never even addressed Jewish Bolshevism and its role in the mass murder of millions of Christians, dissidents, and simple peasants caught up in the Communist whirlwind. In fact, Russian Communism itself had instituted an (operationally Zionist) de facto Jewish exceptionalism in its early years by promoting inordinately large numbers of Jews into the upper hierarchy (not unlike the Democratic Party has increasingly done for years in America).
It is the similar plight of the Palestinians at the hands of Levant Zionism (which dropped all pretense and instituted du jure Jewish exceptionalism) that originally brought me to their cause, and to the conclusion that due to the Jewish authoritarian impulse, the two-state solution with complete Palestinians sovereignty is really the only viable means of ever getting any kind of permanent relief for the occcupied Palestinian people.
I don’t know what solution Weiss favors, because I don’t believe he has ever openly committed to a position (more liberal wishy-washiness) but deep down, he probably would like to see Israel totally dismantled, because Jewish Zionism conflicts with his fanciful and childish image of Jewish identity. The problem is, if Israel is dismantled, the whole dysfunctional cycle of the Jewish quest for a homeland simply starts again.
Jewry needs to grow up, and the best way to do so is for the nation to learn to get along with competitors, critics and antagonists without going ballistic and throwing tantrums.
Apparently Weiss isn’t there yet.
Nor is Jewry. Even after 4,000 years.
But just because tribal Jewry remains alienated from humanity doesn't mean all peoples, cultures and civilizations should be steam-rolled into "unity" as a way of working through peculiarly Jewish issues of stubborn arrested development, as factions of left-wing Jews have apparently concluded via a process of psychological projection.
This is the contradiction of the authoritarian Left in general and authoritarian Left-Jewry in particular: they professes to be on the side of humanity even as they seeks to destroy what makes it human, all out of neurosis-based concepts of equaling and assimilation.
-- By Chris Moore
PS, Since I've been banned from Mondoweiss, which was an effective outlet for my views due to its large audience, I guess I’ll have to spark this blog back up to continue to address the Zionist problem, which perhaps is for the best, anyway. Lately I have too often approached the fight as a kind of virtual guerrilla warfare and have enjoyed the hit and run tactics of blog commenting, but eventually you’ve got to return to base camp, I suppose.
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This raises the question of anti-American absolutism, both Left and Right. Since this [photo] documents the right-wing version, let’s examine Leftist absolutism.--
There are a lot of different opinions about what, exactly, Judaism is; but one characteristic that most people can agree on is that it is comprised of a cohesive group of Jews. In fact, were they not so cohesive, they likely would not exist to this day, because it takes a lot of glue to keep any particular group of people together for some 4,000 years.
So the question becomes: how can Jewry reconcile their cohesiveness, which necessarily encompasses the division of the world into Jews and Gentile “others,” with the imperatives of the secular-humanist socialist view of the modern world, which insists that there is no “other,” and acknowledgement of religo-ethno-cultural differences is inherently racist because it is a surrender to the obsolete intellectual framework of a primitive, tribal and racist past?
In other words, if secular humanist socialist doctrine is to be taken to its natural conclusion, it is racist for anyone to identify him or herself as a Jew, Christian, Muslim, German, American etc, (any tribal affiliation) and it is contradictory for anyone to identify him or herself as, for example, a secular humanist Jew. That means, according to socialist doctrine, all self-described Jews are racists, and should be stereotyped as thus, no differently than those goons in the photo. (Mooser, Weiss, did you know this about yourselves?)
This is why and how Leftist thought becomes the human-negating enemy of mankind, and led to, for example, the Holocaust, via the totalitarian imposition of Communist logic in Soviet Russia.
The racist absolutism depicted in the photo may be irrational, but the fear of Communism is not.
My banning from Mondoweiss has nothing to do with anti-Semitism, and Weiss knows it. It has to do with the hard-Left Jewish diaspora political identity, which is just the flip side of the hard-Right Jewish Zionist identity. There is no moral distinction between the two whatsoever; in fact, the hard-Left is ultimately more destructive.
I harbor no animosity towards Weiss, who has mostly handled the Zionist issue honestly and deftly, but ultimately his left-wing politics prevent him from getting to any kind of truth or responsible outcome to the problem of the authoritarian impulse amongst large pluralities of politicized modern Jewry from the Levant to New York.
Apologists will say Jewry have plenty of good historical reasons to be fearful and hence disposed towards authoritarianism, but that can legitimately be said of nearly any nation. Nazi Germany had plenty of legitimate reasons to be fearful, but it’s no excuse for mass-murderous authoritarianism --which pluralities of Jewry were themselves guilty of instigating and implementing prior to the Holocaust in the early Soviet era, and on a larger scale.
Weiss want to point the finger at right-wing Zionism, but refuses to consider it’s left-wing equivalent in the diaspora, and as far as I know has never even addressed Jewish Bolshevism and its role in the mass murder of millions of Christians, dissidents, and simple peasants caught up in the Communist whirlwind. In fact, Russian Communism itself had instituted an (operationally Zionist) de facto Jewish exceptionalism in its early years by promoting inordinately large numbers of Jews into the upper hierarchy (not unlike the Democratic Party has increasingly done for years in America).
It is the similar plight of the Palestinians at the hands of Levant Zionism (which dropped all pretense and instituted du jure Jewish exceptionalism) that originally brought me to their cause, and to the conclusion that due to the Jewish authoritarian impulse, the two-state solution with complete Palestinians sovereignty is really the only viable means of ever getting any kind of permanent relief for the occcupied Palestinian people.
I don’t know what solution Weiss favors, because I don’t believe he has ever openly committed to a position (more liberal wishy-washiness) but deep down, he probably would like to see Israel totally dismantled, because Jewish Zionism conflicts with his fanciful and childish image of Jewish identity. The problem is, if Israel is dismantled, the whole dysfunctional cycle of the Jewish quest for a homeland simply starts again.
Jewry needs to grow up, and the best way to do so is for the nation to learn to get along with competitors, critics and antagonists without going ballistic and throwing tantrums.
Apparently Weiss isn’t there yet.
Nor is Jewry. Even after 4,000 years.
But just because tribal Jewry remains alienated from humanity doesn't mean all peoples, cultures and civilizations should be steam-rolled into "unity" as a way of working through peculiarly Jewish issues of stubborn arrested development, as factions of left-wing Jews have apparently concluded via a process of psychological projection.
This is the contradiction of the authoritarian Left in general and authoritarian Left-Jewry in particular: they professes to be on the side of humanity even as they seeks to destroy what makes it human, all out of neurosis-based concepts of equaling and assimilation.
-- By Chris Moore
PS, Since I've been banned from Mondoweiss, which was an effective outlet for my views due to its large audience, I guess I’ll have to spark this blog back up to continue to address the Zionist problem, which perhaps is for the best, anyway. Lately I have too often approached the fight as a kind of virtual guerrilla warfare and have enjoyed the hit and run tactics of blog commenting, but eventually you’ve got to return to base camp, I suppose.
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