Minn. legislator wants Jesus out of Senate prayers
(Associated Press) --
Jewish Minnesota lawmaker is asking Senate leaders to allow only nondenominational prayers to open sessions, after feeling "highly uncomfortable" when a Baptist pastor repeatedly mentioned Jesus Christ and Christianity in one of the invocations.
Democratic Sen. Terri Bonoff says she wants Republican Senate Majority Leader Amy Koch to change the letter submitted to all visiting chaplains to say they are "required," rather than "requested," to make prayers nondenominational.
"I'm a very religious woman and believe deeply in God," said Bonoff, of the Minneapolis suburb of Minnetonka. "We honor God in public and our political discourse, and that's proper. But in doing a nondenominational prayer we are honoring him without violating the separation of church and state."
Koch said Wednesday she wouldn't support such a requirement. She said the Senate invites leaders from numerous Christian and non-Christian faith traditions to pray, and notifies them that senators come from a diverse background. "I'm not going to get into the process of sort of editing prayer," Koch said.
Several Jewish senators, all Democrats, are backing Bonoff's request but she's also meeting resistance from other Republicans. The GOP gained control of the Senate after November's election.
"I believe we don't have a right to censor their prayers," Sen. David Brown, R-Becker, said of visiting chaplains...
It's not the first time Jewish legislators have taken issue with how prayers are conducted in state Capitol sessions. A decade ago, a handful of state representatives unsuccessfully fought for House guidelines similar to what Bonoff is proposing for the Senate.
Rep. Michael Paymar, DFL-St. Paul, said he has spent several years outside the House chamber during opening prayers. He said he spoke to Speaker Kurt Zellers after a pastor opened a February session with a Christian prayer that made several Jewish members uncomfortable. Paymar said he'd likely push for further steps if it happens again.
"It makes anyone who doesn't pray through Jesus Christ, or believe in Jesus Christ — it makes them feel like they don't belong," said Sen. Ron Latz, DFL-St. Louis Park, who is Jewish. "It makes me feel like I don't belong on the Senate floor to which I was duly elected by my constituents. In a government chamber, I and others should not be made to feel that way."
The Hawaii State Senate in January ended opening prayers altogether out of concern over possible lawsuits on First Amendment grounds...MORE...LINK
Chris Moore comments:
Under the guise of separation of church and state (which in the U.S. was originally implemented not to protect government from religion, but rather to protect religion from government), fanatical Jews will often demand Jesus' name never be uttered in their presence because their religious doctrine curses his being.
But notice how Jewish supremacist lawmakers don't have a "separation" problem with voting tens of billions of U.S. taxpayer dollars to the officially "Jewish state" of Israel.
In fact, in Israel, Jews routinely spit on Christians or when passing a Christian church.
Perhaps in Minnesota, these Jewish-American lawmakers feel compelled to spit every time they hear Jesus' name. Notice how one of the Jewish lawmakers "said he has spent several years outside the House chamber during opening prayers." Obviously he despises the name of Jesus Christ that much.
Why, next these Jewish-American lefties will demand America tear down all of its churches so they don't have to be offended by the sight of the cross on their way to doing "the people's work" (which is exactly what the Jewish Bolsheviks did in early Soviet Russia -- razed churches, but spared synagogues).
Wait a minute...the vast majority of the people in America are Christians!
But I guess this is the kind of abuse Christians are asking for when they vote in Jewish supremacists to "represent" them.
Religious scholar Ted Pike on one of Judaism's holiest religious documents, the Talmud:
The Talmud says:
On Passover Eve, they hanged Jesus of Nazareth. And the herald went before him forty days, and proclaimed ‘Jesus of Nazareth is going out to be stoned because he practiced sorcery, incited and led Israel astray. Whoever knows of an argument that may be proposed in his favor should come present that argument on his behalf.’ But the judges did not find an argument in his favor, and so they hanged him on Passover Eve. 4
The Talmud describes torture inflicted on Jesus before His death. “All four legal methods of execution – stoning, burning, decapitation and strangling were employed”. 5 The Talmud elaborates on “burning.” It involved Jesus being:
“lowered in dung up to his armpits, then a hard cloth was placed within a soft one, wound around his neck and the two ends pulled in opposite directions until he was dead, forcing him to open his mouth. A wick was then lit, and thrown into his mouth, so that it descended into his body, burning his bowels.” 6
Jesus, says the Talmud, was excommunicated for the thought of seducing a woman. In His ensuing grief and confusion, He fell down and worshipped a brick. 7 The Talmud says Jesus “…was a fool and we do not pay attention to what fools do.” 8 According to the Talmud, Jesus is now in hell, writhing in eternal agony. The Talmud asks: “‘What is your punishment?’ He replied, ‘With boiling hot semen…’”