Introduction by Chris Moore:
(*UPDATE* 11/10/11: Lasha Darkmoon replies to my critique of Shamir, and my short response, at bottom of entry.)
The following is an excerpt of an email debate between anti-Zionist writer and activist Israel Shamir, and poet, translator, academic and anti-Jewish activist Lasha Darkmoon, recently published on Darkmoon's website.
Shamir, who claims to be an ethnic Jew who converted to Christianity, has a very confusing background, but a couple of characteristics are clear: he's definitely an anti-Zionist, he's definitely a left-winger, and he's definitely been accused by Zionists of being anti-Semitic (in the anti-Jewish sense).
As the following debate makes clear, though, he's actually an enabler of Diaspora Judeofascism because:
a) he claims the Jewish question has nothing to do with the ethno-religious-ideology of Judaism and its culture of insatiable racism, aggression, malevolence and greed, but rather scapegoats capitalism for ideological Jewry's malignancy, dishonor and defective character;
b) he minimizes and dismisses the organized Jewish role in the original holocaust, the one perpetrated by Leninists, Stalinists and Jewish Bolsheviks in the Soviet Union, and minimizes the numbers exterminated under this mass murderous joint-venture between Judeofascists and left-wing Gentiles. (If he minimized the Nazi-perpetrated alleged Holocaust(TM) in a similar manner, he would be labeled a "Holocaust deniar" by the Judeofascists and declared guilty of illegal "hate speech.")
c) as a dedicated and stubborn left-winger, he is actually the anti-Christian enemy of the ultimate and most effective, experienced, and moral enemy of the Judeofascist aggressors and their evil agenda, be they Diaspora Zionists and crypto Zionists or Israeli Zionists: the confident Greco-Christian Western ethic and its unapologetic anti-Jewishness.
Even if his politics are misguided, I can nonetheless appreciate Shamir's dedication to standing up against the most nakedly and un-apologetically Judeofascist Israeli Zionist element, but his oily disingenousness and discombobulating with regard to the Diaspora Judeofascist element has not only a very left-wing flavor too it, but a very Jewish flavor, as well. (This shouldn't be a surprise, though, given that the modern left -- as with the neocon right -- is largely a manifestation of squirmy-brained, ideological Jewish "thought" and "morals.")
Additionally, his denial of the concept of Diaspora Judeofascism, in the end, does nothing but enable the larger, murderous, Judeofascist agenda.
Fortunately, Lasha Darkmoon does a comendable (if somewhat anti-climactic--please read the entire linked article and comments) job of cutting through his dishonest, left-wing, Judeofascist-enabling rhetoric. -- C.M.
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DARKMOON UPON AMERICA, BY ISRAEL SHAMIR: Response, Pictures and Captions by Lasha Darkmoon
(Darkmoon) --
SHAMIR:
...Lasha Darkmoon claims, that if the Jews form an elite in the US, then US world dominance is a form of Jewish world dominance.
Her second claim is that the US has became a colony of Israel. She even claims that “America is now Israel’s slave”.
There is a huge logical leap here: even if US Jews form an important part of the US elites, why would they give away their leadership to their cousins and brethren in the Middle East?
*DARKMOON: (stepping in) Good point, Mr Shamir. Now consider my logic and try to refute this: If the Israeli Jews give the orders to the American Jews, and if the American Jews control America, then clearly America has become an Israeli colony. But if, on the contrary, American Jews exercise all the power and tell the Israeli Jews what to do, then clearly Israel is an American colony. The logic is inescapable.
Let’s go to the next step.
Once it is admitted that America is controlled by its Jews, whether Israeli Jews or American Jews, America becomes in effect a JEWISH colony.
Given that American Jews were former immigrants to America who have managed to “take over” America, you could say that Jewry has colonized America. Ergo: no matter which way you slice it, America is either an Israeli colony or a Jewish colony. The logic of my argument, I put it to you, is irrefutable.
We can take this therefore as proven: if America is not an Israeli colony, taking its orders from Israeli Jews, then it is a Jewish colony, taking its orders from American Jews.
*SHAMIR: World Jewry is a project rather than reality; in real life, Jews of different countries do not feel themselves a single united body though they do interact. Compare them with Catholics: these have the Pope and a single hierarchy, and still they are united in prayer only. Jews have no Pope, no hierarchy, and are even less united.
*DARKMOON: Jews less united than the goyim? Wow! I never thought any group could be less united than the goyim, or more united than the Jews in knowing “what is good for the Jews”. If you are trying to convince us that the Jews are DISUNITED just because no two Jews think alike, some preferring Buddhism to Judaism and others preferring kippas to hats, then you are on very shaky ground indeed! We are well aware that no two individuals, whether Jewish or non-Jewish, think alike; just as we are aware that no two individuals have identical fingerprints. It doesn’t follow from this, however, that people with different opinions are going to be disunited, any more than it follows that people with different fingerprints are going to be disunited.
To say that Jews lack unity is almost like saying America lacks military power. Or the Queen of England is short of cash. The Jews have far more unity, I put it to you, than any other other ethnic group in the world. This fundamental cohesion of the Jews is something I have pointed out in my recent essay America Vanquished:
“The extraordinary success of the Jews, who make up only 2.5 percent of America’s population, can be attributed to meticulous organization, coordination and networking. This advantageous cohesiveness derives from an evolutionary characteristic of the Jews: an exceptionally strong ethnocentricism which has enabled them to infiltrate almost every single organization that could possibly threaten them as a group.” (See here)
Despite the superficial differences between various types of Jews, the Jews are surely a paradigm of unity and cohesion compared to other ethnic groups.
You yourself, Mr Shamir, have written: “Palestine is not the Ultimate goal of the Jews; the world is.” Consider that statement. Can you seriously tell me that the Jews are likely to achieve this grandiose goal of world domination by being disunited and disorganized? by lacking coordination? No, of course not!
One could supply countless arguments to demonstrate the remarkable unity of the Jews in achieving “what is good for the Jews”. Pray tell: how did the Jews manage to take over the mass media, Hollywood, academia, the judiciary, the executive branches of government, Wall Street, the world’s banking system, the lavishly funded Think Tanks, even the porn industry, if they were disorganized and disunited?
The major Jewish organizations that crisscross America like a spider’s web—AIPAC being only one of them—can hardly be accused of ineffective disunity.
You’ve heard of mesira, the code of honor among Jews that make them stick together through thick and thin, never betraying an organ-stealing rabbi or even a serial killer to the goy authorities. Isn’t sticking together the ultimate form of unity?
You’ve heard of the Sayanim, Mossad’s one million worldwide helpers. How these faceless individuals, all Jews living in lands outside Israel, work away for Israel in providing “safe houses”, transportation, access to communications networks and other facilities for Mossad spies. Full details of the existence of the Mossad Sayanim network were given in the 1994 book The Other Side of Deception by Victor Ostrovsky, himself a renegade Mossad agent.
The Jewish Sayanim remind me of bees, all buzzing away for the common good, all united by a common purpose: to cram the hive full of honey.
One final point, Mr Shamir, which I know will make you graciously concede victory to me on this vitally important issue: in saying that “the Jews have no Pope, no hierarchy, and are even less united” than the goyim, you are guilty of a glaring contradiction. Wasn’t it only a few years ago that you argued the very opposite? Far from implying that the Jews were a disunited group, you stated that they possessed an almost supernatural unity, comparing them to locusts that moved in ordered formation to achieve their common goal.
“It is hard to swallow that the Jews have a strategy,” you said, “but no strategist. The Protocols of the Elders of Zion are popular precisely because they posit such a supreme strategist.” And then, to drive home the point, you added the famous quotation from the Bible: ‘The locusts have no king, yet they attack in formation’ and devastate whole countries as if by plan.” (Cabbala of Power, p.13)
That last phrase—“and devastate whole countries as if by plan”—is your own. You are daringly comparing the Jews to locusts who have an uncanny and almost supernatural ability to act in unison.
*SHAMIR: Israel is a very important element of Jewish life, Lasha, but this does not mean an Israeli Prime Minister can order Jews around.
Granted, politically active Americans think that one can’t succeed without Jewish support. This much we can learn from the incredible reception of Netanyahu in the Capitol and from Obama’s capitulation. And US politicians think that the US Jews love Israel; that is why they express their love of Israel. However, the American Jews’ feelings towards Israel are not that straightforward. Remember a prominent American Jewish politician Henry Kissinger? He facilitated the greatest Arab attack on Israel in 1973 in order to take Israel down a notch.
So, US Jews are certainly an important part of the US elites. Consequently they influence world politics, while the Israeli Jews are just family and friends of these powerful American Jews. This is the secret of Israeli influence: without the support of American Jews, Israel would shrink to its normal size.
The US Jews’ position in the US is so strong because US society has been formed and influenced by the Jewish spirit of predatory capitalism, as expounded by such diverse thinkers as Karl Marx, Werner Sombart and Milton Friedman. Defeat of financial predatory capitalism could undo the Jewish hold. It would de-Jewify the Jews and society in general...
*SHAMIR: ...These crazy numbers you quote— “66 million Russian Christians killed by Jews”— “out of 388 members of the new revolutionary government in Russia, only sixteen were real Russians”—were invented by anticommunists.
*DARKMOON: Good point, Mr Shamir. I concede that the 66 million figure is probably a gross exaggeration, just as the SIX MILLION FIGURE is often alleged to be. (Note, I myself make no comment on this figure, since mathematics is not my forte.) However, both figures have been advanced by their respective propagandists. I decided to quote the 66 million figure for two reasons: (a) because I believe it was mentioned by the great Solzhenitsyn who was not given to lying; and (b) because the 66 million figure is actually mentioned in the title of Eustace Mullins’ classic essay, “The Secret Holocaust”, which I quoted extensively in my article. (See here). Since I was quoting from Mullins, I decided to quote his figures also, giving my readers his viewpoint.
The most conservative figure for the Russian Holocaust, now agreed upon by specialist historians and even cited in the Times newspaper (UK) is 50 million dead Russians. This figure was achieved within a 36-year period of mass murder (1917-1953), initiated by Lenin the half-Jew and continued by Stalin, a Georgian non-Jew, who surrounded himself on all sides by Jewish commissars and sexy young Jewesses he liked to bed.
If you think fifty million deaths is an inflated figure, I assure you it is not.
One Jew alone, the infamous Lazar Kaganovich, personally claimed responsibility for killing twenty million. It was he who stood atop the rubble of a Christian church and proclaimed, “Mother Russia has been cast down! We have torn away her skirts!”
Apart from Kaganovich, there were other Jews who contributed to the massacre of Christians under the cruelest circumstances: Ilya Ehrenburg, Natalfy Frenkel, Mathias Berman, Genrikh Yagoda (lingerie pervert), and, last but not least, Lavrenti Beria—though Beria may or may not have been Jewish. Mainstream historians assert that he was not. But they would, wouldn’t they? — given that Beria was not only a mass murderer of peasants, but also a bloodthirsty sex maniac and pedophile who buried children in his basement — probably alive. (See here and here, pp. 516-519 ).
At no other time in the history of the world has a country been so saturated with Jewish influence as it was between 1917 and 1953 in the Soviet Union: the time of the great gulags and the merciless slaughter of the peasants.
America now faces a similar saturation problem. There have been no Soviet-style massacres in America — not yet, thank God. But who knows what grisly surprises history has up its sleeve?
If the Jews can kill 50 million people in Russia and get away with it, they can kill 50 million people in America too, but maybe they won’t get away with it so easily next time. If they can do it once, they can do it twice — unless the leopard changes its spots...MORE...LINK
***UPDATE 11/10/11***
Darkmoon says:
November 9, 2011 at 11:29 pm
To Chris Moore
In response to the article you sent me as published on your site: “Zionists claim Israel Shamir is an anti-Semite when he’s actually a left-wing, Diaspora Judeofascism-enabler”
http://www.judeofascism.com/2011/11/zionists-claim-israel-shamir-is-anti.html
Thanks, Chris. Very interesting. Your usual eloquent self! But I am not sure you are being altogether fair to Israel Shamir. It is more than possible that you have misunderstood him.
It was Shamir who submitted my article, America Vanquished, to Jeff Rense for publication. But for Shamir’s kindly intervention on my behalf, America Vanquished would probably have remained unpublished.
You see, I had grave doubts about submitting this article anywhere—aware as I was of its controversial nature and its capacity to give serious offense. I also thought it could endanger me and my family. Try and understand that.
Shamir is a very complex man and has received a great deal of bad press. Unlike Gilad Atzmon, who is the flavor of the month after the publication of his recent book (‘The Wandering Who’), Shamir has had a highly adventurous past — like that of some swashbuckling pirate of the Caribbean. He has made himself some serious enemies in the process.
Why this should be so, it is not for an unworldly person like me to speculate.
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Another point, Chris: you misrepresent my position on your blog by describing me here as “an anti-Jewish activist”. That’s pushing it too far, I’m afraid. I am a passionate anti-Zionist, yes; but anti-Jewish, no!
If by “anti-Jewish” you mean to imply that I am against ALL Jews in general, then you are dead wrong. That would make me an anti-Semite.
I even end this particular essay with these words:
“Life is too short and precious to waste it on ‘anti-Semitism’. One has to move beyond this puerile response to Jewish world supremacy. Perhaps the role of the Jew in human affairs is to be the beast of prey that teaches the rest of us to run a bit faster.”
Life is too short to waste it on anti-Semitism.
Would an anti-Semite make such a statement?
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Chris Moore says:
November 9, 2011 at 6:46 pm
On the question of whether Judaism is a race or religion, my theory is that it is an ethno-religious-ideology that organically and physically transforms the brains of many of its adherents over time, into what we would regard as mental illness.
Hence, some Jews genetically inherit their organic pathology, for others, it is implanted over time by Jewish culture in the same way that people can be driven insane by environmental factors.
No question, though, a Jewish ethnicity makes Jewish pathology easier to implant.
But take a non-impacted ethnic Jew and raise him or her from infancy in a healthy, non-Jewish environment, I see no reason or overwhelming evidence to claim that that person is destined for Jewish pathology, any more than a person with a family history of mental illness is destined for insanity.
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Darkmoon says:
November 10, 2011 at 12:00 am
“On the question of whether Judaism is a race or religion, my theory is that it is an ethno-religious-ideology that organically and physically transforms the brains of many of its adherents over time, into what we would regard as mental illness.”
I think you have some highly original ideas here. You are saying, in effect, that the thoughts and images people hold in their minds, will, in the course of time, produce organic changes in their brains. Thinking bad thoughts intensely will sooner or later drive a man mad — by literally destroying those parts of his brain that help to keep him sane.
I think you are absolutely right.
There is a great deal of evidence to show that pornographic images release erototoxins into the blood stream — epinephrine and dopamine among them — that will in the course of time destroy the frontal lobes. The frontal lobes, when healthy, help us to maintain self-restraint in the interest of our own survival.
Porn addiction, and indeed all sex addiction, destroys the frontal lobes and creates a brain-damaged individual who has very little control over his actions.
What does this have to do with Jews? Well, you can work it out. If the Jew thinks evil thoughts about the goyim long enough, it will drive him crazy. And you know the old Latin adage: “QUEM DEUS VULT PERDERE, PRIUS DEMENTAT.” — Whom God wishes to destroy, he first drives insane.
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Chris Moore says:
November 10, 2011 at 2:57 pm
Given that, as discussed, Judaism is not a race but rather a sinister and highly damaging ideological nation that itself is dogmatically and institutionally supremacist, I see nothing wrong with being openly and proudly anti-Jewish at all.
To be anti-Jewish, obviously, is not to say that every individual Jew is irredeemable, nor that the entire nation should be destroyed.
Regardless, I respect your right to define yourself as you see fit.
With regard to Shamir, no question the man deserves due credit and respect for his anti-Zionist brilliance, courage and literary accomplishments.
As for his left-wing politics, not so much…
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